Season 2, Episode 3: Against Hopepunk ft. Nick Mamatas

Two hands in front of an ocean, covered with mud or blood.

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Sci-fi and fantasy has always had an optimistic current, whether it’s utopian space-age cities or noble chosen ones vanquishing a dark lord. In recent years, with the popularity of romantasy and cozy fantasy, it’s easier than ever to immerse yourself in a more hopeful world.

But what if instead we made you feel bad?

In this wide-ranging conversation with multitalented author and editor Nick Mamatas, we talk about crushing your joy, corporate greed in the publishing and music production industries, and why the 80s and 90s were objectively the best time for music.

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Have you bought Blight yet? If you like dark things, you should!

“Do You Love the Colour Of the Sky?” in Trollbreath Magazine

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